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Did America Lose the Vietnam War?

This question was asked four weeks ago, but I wanted to put a different spin on it.

The reason I ask is because I am going on vacation to Vietnam in the fall, staying in the same city my Grandfather was stationed in as a Marine during the war: Saigon, now Ho Chi Minh City. America normalized relations with Vietnam nearly 10 years ago, and from what I understand, now they have a booming economy, expanding tourism, and an excellent trade relationship with the us. With capitalism comes Democratic reforms as we have seen slowly come about in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. Despite whether or not we won militarily is beside the point. Aren't we ultimately achieving the goal we wanted to achive during the war, but with capitalism instead of bombs?

What do you think?
hyungbinkim: Is it "equivocation and denial" to ask is one means of creating demoracy is better than another? I think you misunderstood the question.

It's really an interesting question. What you are describing of course is the "doi moi" policies instituted by the Vietnamese leadership back in the 80s, I believe, and that really took off in the 90s. But you should be careful about the "booming" aspect of these policies. It is booming....for some. Thus, .Inequality has worsened in vietnam and I have read studies where the caloric intake of the poor has gone down...many people rely on state industries and government largesse, which are being pared down by these policies.

You are right that the US may not have achieved it's maximal goal of militarily conquering the Vietnamese resistance and instituting a pliant government, but it in fact DID win the war by leaving the "communist" rulers with a country that was devasted, the countryside was destroyed, a veritable moonscape...millions killed (the US says 2 million, the vietnamese say 4 million) and then we continued to devastate them by blocking world bank aid, supporting the 1979 chinese invasion of vietnam etc etc...lessons that scared other peoples from adopting a form of government opposed to the US and insuring that the Vietnamese would come groveling on their knees for western support, on our terms (capitalist terms, of course) ...being their only chance of survival esp after the fall of the USSR...

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